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It's official: Dawkins to Denver
Update:
Brian Dawkins will hold a press conference in Denver at 3:30 this afternoon. PFT.com is reporting Dawkins signed a 5-year $17 million dollar deal with $7.2 million guaranteed.
Sounds like a gross overpayment right? Not really, as the contract can be voided down to a 2-year $9 million dollar deal. It's an end of an era in Philadelphia to be sure, but I am interested in how this whole deal went down.
If you would have put a gun to my head and asked me two weeks ago to predict what kind of contract Dawkins would have accepted I would have gone with a 2 year, $8 to $10 million dollar deal. Looks like Dawkins believes he has a lot more left in the tank. I wish him good luck. Dawkins will be missed in more ways than one. Shawn Andrews commented on what Dawkins has meant to him during his career in Philadelphia:
"If I had to pinpoint one guy, since I've been in Philadelphia that I respect as a husband, as a father, as an athlete, a football player, it would be Dawkins. He will be dearly, dearly missed."
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I will reserve judgment until the rumor has been verified.
Say it ain't so
I know - it will be a sad day. I'll have to get a new jersey next year.
This cannot happen. Ugh.
Well this has gotta suck - you gotta hope that Denver WILDLY over paid for Dawkins and it was a money decision right? Cause if it ain't - it looks bad for the birds
It's not done yet, so I'm holding out hope. Maybe this has a happy ending, but do they really need to make the true face of the franchise hop on a plane and get an offer? I just keep thinking of Joe Banner stating this week that "they have so much cap space, I can't envision us spending all of it". Does anyone think Dawk is asking for that much? I haven't felt this lousy since the time I purchased a Bobby Hoying jersey...
From what I heard this morning there's no confirmed signing just a visit.
But what about the Lito deal? What's that mean to all?
Done deal...its on ESPN.
So one of you please tell me why philly couldnt match ?
Reportedly 5 years...17 million. 7.2 million guaranteed and he would make 9 million the first 2 years.
The last three years he will never earn so who cares.
Were basically talking 9 mill for 2 years///
I think the question would have/should have been...Was/is Brian Dawkins worth 9 million dollars for the next 2 years ? I mean the eagles could have signed him to the same deal and cut him after the 2010 season and essentially pay him just the 9 million for 2 years. I love dawkins and I think for what he brings to the eagles he IS worth 9 million for the next 2 years.
Dawkins is a proud man..3 years from now if he couldnt play at a high level and crack the starting lineup he would gracefully retire and if he didnt they could cut him and not lose a cent.. Eagles I think made a mistake here...much like when they first let go of Trotter....no leadership on this defense now. Its not just about his play (which was still pro bowl caliber) its about HIM as a leader. So lets see...48 million of cap space...no housh, no dawkins, no tra thomas.
Looks like we will have another mediocre team but Banner will have a few new Mercedes in his garage... thats what I want as a fan...not a team that wins it all...but an owner who keeps us under the cap. This will be a good argument to have with giant fans next year.....
Giant Fan: Hey we won our second super bowl in three years !
Me: Oh yeah ? Well weve been under the cap every year since Banners been here
Giant Fan : Looking confused...walks away.
Douchebag banner.
Now sure how all this leads to the Giants winning the superbowl again - they will lose jacobs - manning is over rated and they have some wide receiver trouble.
Free agency is 48 hours old and people are ready to write off the eagles for the entirety of next season.
The Eagles know a lot more about what they have planned, and what players have left, than you do or I do or anyone else does - free agency is a long way from over and no one team in the NFC has suddenly stepped forward and said we're the team to beat.
Take a deep breathe and try not to write off the season 8 months before it starts.
I'm done as an Eagles fan. I've been on the edge of apathy for years. Now that Dawk is gone, this is the last straw.
Memo to Banner: This is a football team not a Wall Street Investment Bank. Arrogant asshole.
Memo to the fans
Teams are bigger than one player, they know more about the players than you think you know, emotional attachment isn't the same as continued ability.
If you're done as an eagles fan just because dawkins is gone, you weren't really an eagles fan to start with, you were a dawkins fan, you're the kind of fan who was a sixers fan during the iverson years and then when they traded him no longer was.
The Eagles existed LONG before Dawkins and will exist LONG after Dawkins, and the EAGLES fans will continue to root for the TEAM.
John, that is your opinion. Don't question my devotion to sports teams. You don't know me from a can of paint. Stick to your opinions and don't make presumptions about fellow commenters.
IMO, Dawkins is a hall of fame player who deserved to retire an eagle. Period. You try and keep the Julius Ervings, Mike Schmidts, Reggie Whites or any other hall of fame caliber talent on your team because fans grow attached to them. They want to see players like that retire with their team, not someone elses. It's the next best thing to winning the super bowl. If a team can't get over the hump and win the big one, at least they can root for players like him. In rare cases, it's not just about dollars and sense or straight player personnel. As a fan, if you don't have that kind of emotional attachment to players then my argument falls on deaf ears. So be it.
Reggie White didn't retire an Eagle, and you are hearkening back to a different era and a different time in sports financially.
Anyone who is willing to give up on a sports team because of one move or one player doesn't strike me as a fan. You can disapprove of moves the team you are a fan of make (and I do, all the time) but you don't give up on them, fan stands for fanatic for a reason.
I root for my teams whether they win or lose, and no I don't have emotoinal attachments to people I have never met, and I think it's pretty odd when people care so much about people they don't know be they athletes or public personalities - to me it's an odd psychology I've never gotten - you don't know them - they don't know you - they play a game for a professional organization you happen to be a fan(atic) of.
Though I've never understood the identity so tied up with a team you root for be it NFL, college ball or UEFA cup...it's not something I get, not something I even want to get.
Wait, you mean the green jerseys Reggie sported in the later 90's weren't Eagles jerseys? Are you pulling my leg?
Hmmm, I think you've swayed me. I can see you know alot about the ways of professional sports. I mean, you must know what you are talking about given your masterful use of run-ons and misspelled words. I can't compete. I defer to your judgement.
The deal could escalate to as much as $27 million if Dawakins can reach some achievable performance levels.
Dawkins was far and wide my favorite player who ever wore an Eagles uniform. We get attached to these guys but lets be rational, it's 2009, not pre-free agency football.
Dawkins made a business decision to leave the Eagles. We won't know the whole story of how this went down for a couple days. We won't know what was offered and why it wasn't desirable to Dawkins. However, it is a little disturbing that the Denver deal can be voided down to a 2 year $9 million dollar deal. This type of deal wasn't matchable? That's tough to swallow. Those 3 extra years and non-guaranteed money are all window dressing. This all points to the conclusion that the Birds decided it was time to move on. The Philadelphia Eagles made a personnel decision, albeit an insanely unpopular one. This wasn't a money decision.
It's obviously an emotional time for the fanbase, so show some respect to each other. We're all Eagle fans here so try to keep the arguments civil fellas.
By the way, enough with the "I'm done as a fan" stuff. If you were done as a fan you wouldn't be on this message thread to begin with. Max, take a deep breath and regroup, Dawkins will still retire as an Eagle, it just won't be after an uninterrupted tenure with the squad.
So i was just picking something up from my office and heard Dawkins on ESPN Radio talking about how the Broncos weren't looking at his age, but more at what he could do. He referenced the Broncos ignoring his age (35) more than once. Seemed to me like he was really trying to get that point across - maybe implying that the Eagles weren't going to offer more than their original offer due to age questions.